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The Crimes of Richard Haynes
are so hateful

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that they are unspeakable.

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What happened here?

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I was terrorized here.

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We had never seen a case like this.

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A little girl with a monster
at the foot of his bed.

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It's the house of horror.

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He's the cruelest monster
that ever existed.

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It's the devil himself.

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And it is an affront to Satan.

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She talked about it,
but no one believed her.

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Clues suggested

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that there was more
than what she told me.

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We could easily take it
for a crazy woman.

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But nothing is ever dark
or white.

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None of us can imagine

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what is happening
in Jeni's head.

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Everyone said I was lying,

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that it was false.

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I open the door.

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Oh, no!

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I didn't lie.

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I was telling the truth.

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It gave me a goal:

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demand justice.

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This is an unprecedented trial
in Australia.

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It's probably the case
the most serious

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prolonged child abuse
never seen in Australia.

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We will take you to court,

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we will testify against you,

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and you will end up in prison.

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This case affected
a sensitive chord.

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It was shocking and terrifying
that such a thing could happen.

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Upon discovering the file,
we took a beating.

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How is this possible?

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I tried to denounce
what my father did to me

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since I was eight years old,

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but no one believed me.

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Neither the teachers nor the nurses,

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nor the doctors.

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No one ever believed me.

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Do you want a tissue?

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I was born in 1970 in London,
in England.

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It's a pretty photo.

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I had to have
between six and eight weeks.

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This is the wedding photo
of my parents.

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My mother was magnificent.

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She thought she had found
the man of her life.

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He had a wife,

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a baby coming...

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The good life, yes.

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When I think of my father,

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I always see it
in suit and tie

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and white button-down shirt.

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Jeni's father

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was an electronics engineer.

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He had a good job.

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Her mother was a shorthand typist.

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It was just before
my first school year.

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With my family,
we moved to Australia in 1974.

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I was four years old.

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This move,
it was like going on an adventure.

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But I wasn't aware

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that we were moving
on the other side of the world.

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We were just moving.

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And I couldn't wait.

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We were going to live in a country
who had animals

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that we didn't know.

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It was exhilarating.

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It was nice and warm

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while in England,

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it was wet, cold and snowy.

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By making us move
in Australia,

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it was a way for my father
to keep my mother away from her friends

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and his family.

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He was in complete control
my mother's friendly relations.

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Jeni's father was constantly
in handling

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and control.

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He did not accept any visitors
at their home.

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He knew how to keep his distance
anyone suspicious.

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Inevitably,
this led the family

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in isolation.

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Jeni's father ran
the household

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with an iron fist.

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My father pretended to be
for a respectable man.

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Nobody ever wondered
what could be happening with us.

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Alas.

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View from the outside,
it was a respectable family.

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We could have believed
that it was a perfect family

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in all respects.

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But secrets were hidden
under this facade.

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My father inflicted on me
countless physical abuses

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with a belt

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and raped me

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almost every day,

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sometimes several times a day,

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for 14 years.

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And when I spoke about it,
they said I was lying

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because there was no
no external sign.

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My parents' wedding
was shattered

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at the beginning of 1984

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and they decided to divorce
when I was 14.

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After the divorce,

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Jeni and her mother
made a new start,

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and his father followed another path.

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He returned to England
and we stayed in Australia.

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20,000 kilometers separated us.

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I thought I was safe,
away from him.

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But actually, not at all.

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I was 26 years old.

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I was a psychology student

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at the University of Queensland.

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My biggest fear
had become reality.

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This is a key moment.

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That's when Jeni made the decision

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to denounce his father.

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I went to the police in 1996
to ask for help.

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My name is Kim Whitman,
and I was a police commander.

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I met for the first time
Jennifer Haynes and her mother

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in 1996.

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This first meeting was

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on concerns about
the father's behavior.

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The victim appeared to have lived
a coercive relationship with him.

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This is what made us lean
the scale.

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He was no longer the man
that everyone believed.

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I told Kim Whitman
the bare minimum

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that I needed to reveal,

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because my goal was to provide
enough information

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to show
that my father was dangerous,

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so that the Australian police

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can inform
the British police.

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During this interview, I perceived
like a sense of urgency.

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Afterwards,
everything happened very quickly.

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We didn't have to wait
only a few weeks

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so that the British police
launches its investigation.

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British police were ready
to help us

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and immediately reacted.

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They called me often
to ask me for details,

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so I turned to Jeni.

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We saw each other regularly.

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After a while,

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British police
came to Australia

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and after meeting Jeni,
they took over,

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because the case was going to be brought
before the courts.

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Initially,
I was worried about the victim.

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But speaking with Jeni,

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clues suggested

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that there was more
than what she told me.

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It became obvious

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that she had experienced the same thing.

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I didn't think
that she was crazy

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nor that his words were
lying,

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but none of us
was not aware

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severity and scale
of what she had experienced.

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It was very complex.

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I never really realized

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that my brain was working
differently from the norm

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nor that the others had
than a personality.

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When I was little,

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my mother told me one day:

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“Don’t talk to the voices in your head.

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“It’s dangerous.

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"If you hear voices,
That means you’re crazy.”

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I met Jeni Haynes
for the first time in Sydney.

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She wanted to evaluate
if I was the right person

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to tell his story
in 60 Minutes Australia.

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You use different terms
of our first meeting.

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This meeting turned out
interesting,

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because I thought I had
enough information

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to be ready to face
what awaited me,

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but that was not the case.

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Eventually we all talked.

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And I say "all"
because there were many of us.

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It was incredible.

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I had never seen anything like it.

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When we went to see
the Australian police,

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we knew we were suffering

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of a dissociative disorder
of identity.

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But we didn't care.

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My father is a monster.

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Jeni gave me details about
of the situation with his father.

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I took the same approach
that for any situation

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of sexual violence.

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But I remember saying to him:

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"You don't tell me everything
and I must protect you.

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“You need to see a psychologist.”

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Kim said she knew

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that there was more
than what he was told.

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So when she advised us
to go see a psychologist,

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we followed his advice.

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The Jeni I met

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was polite,

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measured and thoughtful.

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I had already become aware
abuse suffered during his childhood.

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During a first session,

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it is important not to
plunge them back into their trauma

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so as not to aggravate the situation.

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It's an art

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and it is above all
to establish a relationship of trust.

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At some point,
she asked me:

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“What’s my problem?”

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I replied: “I think
that you have DID

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“and I can help you.”

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Before, we called this

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"disorder
multiple personality,

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but it was renamed
“dissociative identity disorder”.

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People with DID
have developed a survival mechanism

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to face

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to intense trauma,
incessant and persistent.

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The child literally divides
his mind

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in different personalities,
called “alters”.

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These alters can assume
different roles

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and functions,

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thus allowing the child

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to continue to evolve
in his world

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without being overwhelmed
by the trauma.

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This is how he creates

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these personalities
totally distinct.

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Little by little, over time,

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I ended up meeting
more and more alters.

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The pronouns I use
are "we", "we"

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and “our”.

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We are never alone,
at any time.

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For most people,

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it is considered
as a sign of madness.

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It's really difficult
to understand.

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What does that mean?

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How can anyone have
so many voices in his head?

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How can we have
so many personalities?

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It's a path that many people
are not ready to borrow.

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To understand this disorder,

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it must first be considered

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as a survival mechanism.

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It develops
before the age of eight.

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It is designed and implemented

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to help a child overcome

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serious abuse,
recurrent and persistent.

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To achieve this,

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the child demonstrates
of great ingenuity.

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He divides his mind

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in what we could call
different personalities

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which are very distinct.

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In Jeni's case,

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the most important alter
is Symphony.

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My name is Symphony,
but I'm not alone.

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Other alters are there

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to support me...

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While I tell you
what daddy did to me.

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My father is a monster.

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He's terrifying.

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He told me that if I didn't
what he wanted,

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he would harm our cats

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and our guinea pigs.

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I got Sweep

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when I was very little.

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Dad used Sweep

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as if he were talking to her.

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He brought it close to his ear,
as I do there,

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and he did that.

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And then he said that Sweep
revealed all my secrets to him

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and he stole Sweep from me.

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He put Sweep
on the windowsill

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of the shed.

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To recover Sweep,
I had to go to the shed.

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Do I go get Sweep
and save him from daddy,

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knowing that daddy will hurt me,

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or do I leave Sweep there

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at risk
that daddy would hurt him?

269
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,400
I could be at home,

270
00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,800
chatting with mom,
to watch TV

271
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000
or read a book,

272
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,880
but as soon as dad opened
the front door,

273
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,520
the ambiance of the whole house
was changing.

274
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,480
Everyone tensed up.

275
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,160
When daddy came home,

276
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,600
he terrified me so much
that I barely dared to breathe,

277
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,360
lest the noise
de ma respiration

278
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,800
does not attract his attention
and let him not harm me.

279
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,920
Every time we tell
our history,

280
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,040
we are asked the crucial question:

281
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,320
“Where was your mother?”

282
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,600
This is the hardest question

283
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,440
of all.

284
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,160
How our mother was able to live
in this house

285
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,000
without seeing what was happening to us

286
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,320
and without doing anything to stop it?

287
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,640
The answer is “There”.

288
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,200
She was at home,
in the garden...

289
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,360
She was there.

290
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480
Where was our mother?

291
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,560
She was there.

292
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,200
Jeni's mother told me

293
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,240
that due to abuse
that she herself had suffered,

294
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,960
she was depressed,

295
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,720
and she says she didn't
simply did not know how to detect

296
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,440
warning signs,

297
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,040
all alerts.

298
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:58,200
I know a lot of people will say
that it is impossible.

299
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,440
I had a hard time believing it too.

300
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000
And I know
that Jeni is having a lot of trouble too.

301
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,120
The attacker chooses his
or his partner with care.

302
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,840
He chooses a person
who will be docile.

303
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,800
The parent, by doing nothing
to protect your child,

304
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,640
then send him a message
extremely violent

305
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,480
which is:

306
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,040
“You don’t deserve to be saved.

307
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,400
“You don’t matter.”

308
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,520
I am often asked
how I was created,

309
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,480
but I don't really know.

310
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,480
All I know,

311
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,800
it's only when daddy took it
to the initial child,

312
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Jennifer Margaret Linda,

313
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,360
I made the decision to protect her

314
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,920
at all costs.

315
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,640
This is my reason for being,

316
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,480
and this is what I continue
to do today.

317
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,200
If I have in front of me
a person with DID,

318
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,760
I know she had dealings

319
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,640
to some of the crimes
the most odious there is.

320
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,760
And someone has to answer for it.

321
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Richard Haynes was arrested

322
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,480
and charged with 11 counts,

323
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,480
especially rape
and sexual assault.

324
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,920
He was also charged
of four counts

325
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,320
against Jeni.

326
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,400
I didn't think

327
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,600
that they would pursue him
for what he had done to me.

328
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Jeni and her mother were cited
to appear in the United Kingdom.

329
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,680
I don't think she knew
the British justice system.

330
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,360
Dropping off Jeni and her mother
at the airport,

331
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,240
I felt like I was driving
lambs to the slaughterhouse.

332
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,440
Have you seen your father
in court?

333
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,120
I was...

334
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,800
scared to death.

335
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,360
I hadn't seen my father again

336
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,120
since 1988.

337
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,360
But on the morning of the trial,

338
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,680
it turned into a nightmare.

339
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,280
He was told there would be
a plea bargain

340
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,800
and as part of this agreement,

341
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,560
it turned out

342
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280
that the charges
regarding Jeni

343
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,920
would not be prosecuted.

344
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,040
The judge accepted his plea
not guilty

345
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,440
by declaring:

346
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,280
"You pleaded not guilty
crimes

347
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:46,280
"with regard to your daughter,
Jennifer Haynes.

348
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,280
“I therefore find you not guilty.”

349
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,600
He was therefore found not guilty
crimes against me

350
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,640
simply because he had said
not to be,

351
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640
and without even being asked
the slightest question.

352
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,760
I was completely...

353
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,600
destroyed.

354
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,560
He was ready to say
that he was a monster,

355
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,800
but not towards Jeni.

356
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,440
“I didn’t do anything to him.”

357
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,160
Following the trial in the United Kingdom,
he was sentenced to 9 years in prison.

358
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,320
It made me doubt
of everything that concerned me.

359
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,160
It made me question
my mental health.

360
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,960
Did this really happen?

361
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,800
It was absolutely shocking,

362
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,640
to hear that from a judge
and the police.

363
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Once again:

364
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,800
"No one believes me,
I'm worth nothing,

365
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,400
"I have no value

366
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,880
"and, to top it all off,
I’m a liar.”

367
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,000
I was in shock

368
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,160
that he was found not guilty
based solely on his statements,

369
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000
because it is precisely
what he predicted

370
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,120
so many years ago:

371
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,960
“No one will ever believe you.

372
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,720
"If I say I didn't do it,
They’ll believe me, not you.”

373
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,880
I'm not a liar.

374
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,360
I have always told the truth.

375
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440
I came back from England

376
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600
completely helpless.

377
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040
I was devastated
by the turn of events,

378
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240
and I gradually sank
in depression.

379
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,760
I couldn't arrive
to get it out of my head.

380
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,800
We spent three weeks
in psychiatric ward

381
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,600
to try to recover from it.

382
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,240
Dissociative identity disorder

383
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,800
is a recognized, validated diagnosis

384
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,440
and admitted
by the scientific community.

385
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,640
However, some people
continue to doubt

386
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,800
of its existence,

387
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800
until
that they are confronted

388
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,520
to a concrete case.

389
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920
My name is Symphony

390
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,160
and it was me who created
everyone.

391
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,440
Symphony explained
how do other alters

392
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,480
appeared in his mind

393
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
and how she created them.

394
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,120
I didn't know
that I was creating alters.

395
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720
For me, I made friends.

396
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Jeni has a hard core,
functional alters.

397
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,760
They are the ones who govern
his daily life,

398
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,640
who are in contact
with the outside.

399
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,240
They interact with others
and are responsible for directing his life.

400
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,960
There are about ten of them,
at most.

401
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
It's them
whose trust must be earned,

402
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,040
and it's them
that must be identified and met.

403
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Their voices are almost identical.

404
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,160
I never knew in advance
who was going to speak.

405
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Establish a bond of trust
is a very slow process,

406
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,680
because it must be done with everyone.

407
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960
It's very complex
and you really have to understand them

408
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,920
because every alter is going to have
their own therapeutic follow-up.

409
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,200
These alters are very distinct

410
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,760
and this is very important,

411
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,880
because the purpose of the system
is to allow one to live

412
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920
without being aware of the abuse,

413
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,080
while others face it
as best as possible.

414
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,440
Erik is the first alter
that Symphony created.

415
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,320
He was already 21 years old
three seconds after birth.

416
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,520
He is tall and slender

417
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,480
and he wears a tuxedo jacket
in velvet.

418
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,960
Who decided to wear a dress?

419
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Excuse me.

420
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Damn dresses!

421
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Hello, I'm Erik.

422
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,080
How are you ?

423
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,400
It's okay,
except that I'm in a dress.

424
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600
At the beginning,
Erik remained in the background.

425
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,240
He was one of the alters
stronger protectors

426
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
who observed me for a moment.

427
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Muscles has hair
bleached blondes

428
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,080
surfer style.

429
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,160
It is dressed in black leather
from head to toe.

430
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,920
He fights for us,
he protects us.

431
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160
He's the ideal brother.

432
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
I don't know
how we can live,

433
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,200
how we can support each other

434
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,520
with all these voices in his head.

435
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,440
It's still something
that people find hard to believe.

436
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,920
For us it's almost impossible
to imagine what it must be like

437
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
to live in Jeni's head.

438
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,800
His brain is programmed
to exist, survive

439
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560
and evolve in this world,

440
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,120
facing challenges
which rarely affect children.

441
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,040
I live in a small house
which I call Lemon Cottage.

442
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,880
It's my haven of peace.

443
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Good morning.

444
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480
Be careful, I'm opening.

445
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,760
- Shall I make you a coffee?
- Yes, my fuel.

446
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Because of my physical after-effects
and psychological...

447
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,720
- Take it easy.
- Yes.

448
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040
I have carers

449
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,160
to do everything on a daily basis.

450
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240
- Here, Jeni.
- THANKS.

451
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Holly is my therapy dog.

452
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,720
She is perfectly trained
and she changed my life.

453
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600
I am an eternal student.

454
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,080
I spent 18 years at university.

455
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,000
I needed a license
in human sciences

456
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,800
and a double specialization
in psychology

457
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,000
to understand
what was wrong with me.

458
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,920
I suffer from dissociative disorder
of identity.

459
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,000
I then continued
with a master's degree in criminal justice,

460
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,960
then we decided

461
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,920
to do a doctorate

462
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,480
in victimology.

463
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,120
We had to pass 18 years

464
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,040
to teach,
help others and study

465
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,960
to truly accept
what our father had done.

466
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,560
I believe in the justice system.

467
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,760
I think that's it,
the purpose of the prison:

468
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,640
we serve our sentence,

469
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,560
we return to normal life
and we turn the page.

470
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,800
Six years after incarceration
by Richard,

471
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Jeni contacted him

472
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,600
by calling from Australia.

473
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640
“VB 3910 Haynes.

474
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,240
"Jeni Haynes, his daughter, called
at 9:30 a.m. from Australia

475
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,240
"and wants to speak to his father.

476
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,560
"She wishes him
happy birthday."

477
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,560
It was quite unthinkable.

478
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040
It didn't make sense to anyone.

479
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,000
If there is a moment in his life
where we could say

480
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720
that she had the worst possible idea,
this is the one.

481
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,040
I kept everything.

482
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,560
I don't know why,
but I did it.

483
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,800
I wrote him a letter

484
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,360
to tell him that we had to grow up,
face reality,

485
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,320
accept it, turn the page
and move forward.

486
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360
I thought we could swap
letters,

487
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,520
and if he didn't answer
as I hoped,

488
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,280
I could stop and disappear.

489
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,120
"When I decided
to contact you again,

490
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,520
"I never would have imagined
How nice it would be."

491
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,720
I wanted so much

492
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,840
to forget the abuse.

493
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,600
"I don't regret
for writing to you.

494
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,080
"I don't just care about you,
I love you."

495
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,400
People especially have trouble
to accept

496
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,280
that I reintegrated him into my life.

497
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,200
I desperately wanted

498
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,840
lead a life

499
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,960
which is not marked
by abuse,

500
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:22,320
found a family that is not
neither dysfunctional nor destructive,

501
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,600
or who ruins my life,

502
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,880
and I wanted to find my father.

503
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,600
We spoke regularly
on the phone,

504
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,000
sometimes for three
or four hours.

505
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,920
He was attentive, considerate,
listening to others.

506
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,520
He was everything

507
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400
what I had always wanted
let it be.

508
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Jeni's reunion
with his father

509
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:56,640
show how children

510
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,120
can show themselves
incredibly indulgent

511
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,240
towards their parents.

512
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,200
Even in the face of the worst atrocities.

513
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,200
It shows the capacity for forgiveness
demonstrated by children.

514
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,280
He wrote things

515
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,400
who gave me the impression
to finally have a real father.

516
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Before 2003,

517
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,320
he never told me
that he loved me.

518
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,280
Everything happened very quickly.

519
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
"I, Richard John Haynes,

520
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
"wish to return to Australia
in the Brisbane area

521
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,800
"where my daughter, Jeni Haynes, resides,
and my ex-wife."

522
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,360
I filled
the necessary documents

523
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,600
to support his request
permanent residence

524
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,760
in Australia.

525
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920
Jeni did the unthinkable.

526
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,320
He came back safely.

527
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,880
He stayed at the family home.

528
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,240
It amazes me that she did that.

529
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,120
But I understand it,

530
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,800
because it was
an outstanding manipulator.

531
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,240
For two months,
he was the ideal father.

532
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,720
It couldn't have been
more perfect.

533
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,080
But it is extremely dangerous,

534
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,080
because these people
are very talented

535
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,480
to give the impression
to have changed.

536
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,240
But their true nature
comes back quickly at a gallop.

537
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,440
On my birthday,

538
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,720
mom had gone to work
and I was at home with Dad.

539
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,120
He was taken
of strong sexual arousal.

540
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,440
I ran away
in the bathroom,

541
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,040
but he followed me.

542
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,600
While I was at the sink,

543
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,960
trying to calm myself down,

544
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,880
he passed a hand
around my throat from behind,

545
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,520
squeezed his erect penis
against the back of my thighs,

546
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,120
and simulated sexual intercourse
until...

547
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,920
what he ejaculates.

548
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,680
He's the manipulator
par excellence.

549
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,400
For me,

550
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,680
he knew how to play this game
to perfection.

551
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,480
It deeply upset me.

552
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,680
That's when I understood

553
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,160
that my father remained
a pedophile bastard

554
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,960
and that would never change.

555
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,240
It marked
the beginning of the end for him.

556
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,960
I revoked my support for his request
of residence in Australia

557
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,240
and it was placed
in a detention center.

558
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,200
When Richard Haynes
arrived in Australia,

559
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,880
his entry form asked
if he had already been convicted

560
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120
and he said no.

561
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,200
He had already served a sentence
for sexual offenses in the United Kingdom.

562
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,240
And upon arriving in Australia,

563
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,040
he provided false information
regarding his background.

564
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
The police went
at the family home,

565
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560
made a descent
and took him away in handcuffs.

566
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,080
In 2005,

567
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Jeni's father was deported
to the United Kingdom.

568
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,360
He was chased from the territory.

569
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,080
In 2009,

570
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,800
I decided I had had enough.

571
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,040
It was too much for me.

572
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,440
I filed a complaint against my father.

573
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,320
It was the first time

574
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,120
since this horrible affair
in the United Kingdom

575
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,840
that she found herself
facing a police officer

576
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,960
to tell his story.

577
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,400
It's at that moment
that she decided

578
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,640
to force him to take responsibility

579
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,280
what he had done to her.

580
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,440
The first time
that she was seeking justice.

581
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,080
We fought so hard and so long

582
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,920
to tell our story.

583
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,080
And today,

584
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,560
we reveal an unimaginable truth.

585
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Jeni risked once again
not to be believed.

586
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:29,560
It was obvious

587
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,440
that what had happened was
much more horrible

588
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,720
than what she had written
in his testimony.

589
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,920
He's the cruelest monster
that ever existed.

590
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,080
A 72-year-old man has been extradited.

591
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,440
He is accused of more than 360 facts
of sexual abuse of a minor.

592
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160
I was terrified.

593
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,440
It was the moment of truth.

594
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,440
Adaptation: Solène Paoli

595
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,720
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